BIONICLE 2016 Discussion Topic

Welp, time to throw in some villagers to demonstrate the shadow traps’ power (ala red shirts in star trek)

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Not my best job, but gotta admit the fire one is cute.

OH NO!! Forgot to add my fake glasses in there… Not legit

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It’s “tactically” avoiding Tahu because he’s easily angered, has dominance issues, and is just as dangerous to be around as Ren when you make him mad (which if we go back to the first thing I said, is easy).

In other words, the Shadow Trap is cowering in fear because Tahu generally isn’t the Toa you want to go up against alone.

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OH NO!! Forgot to add my fake glasses in there… Not legit
[/quote] I have real glasses that you can use instead of your fake glasses Blue-oh wait that’s not how digital things work is it?

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Is there any Toa you want to go against, well except Lewa, that poor guy always lose his mask.

Man, poor Lewa

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Meh, I’ll probably need real ones eventually, my vision is not the best. Anyway as for the shadow traps I believe they will at least be more effective than the skull spiders, maybe they can inflict tiny ammounts of fear like we expect Umarak to do with his mask.

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yeah i see that now. i assume that umarak can change his forms through the shadows. that would be awesome

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not as awesome as cronks fear theory posted over a hundred times now

Anyway do you guys think Umarak will be the guy that likes to talk to intimidate or just make weird noises haha.

I think it’s more than likely for him to talk fear into his enemies by just talking to them.

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I think he’s gonna be more of the makuta of the reboot, talking to the toa, keeping them on their toes and then sniping them when they least expect it. More of a one shot one kill sort of dude than a brute.
And I just thought of something. What if that thing attacking Pohatu in the character trailer isn’t Umarak? What if his poison bow has a hallucinogen in it that makes the toa see their worst fear, instead of Umarak himself shapeshifting. Or maybe he can make them out of shadow, like what Makuta did with the shadow toa.

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Yeah, I’d rather have a spoopy smart guy than the big mindless destroyer he will later become. Not that there is anything wrong with UTD he is scary as crap but I find tactical villains more entertaining.

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I honestly think that transformation is going to be used to show how that much power changes even the most tactical and clever hunters into a mindless killing machine. Like what happened with Makuta. This way, the idea Makuta isn’t actually evil could be revealed and have a bit of support.

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We’re probably on a different topic right now but regarding the release date; at this point it’s confirmed to be releasing at least somewhere this month. Id expect that would be North America and some other countries. Confirmed dates like this can change however, but it’s not common.

The part that says it will be releasing globally just means it will be in Netflix across the world. It does not mean it will have a worldwide release date.

As of now, the only North American update we’ve had is that it’s coming in February, so for us in North America, until that is officially changed, I would choose to trust it. And I truly believe that we should.

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Been catching up on the thread and have a couple of questions:

  1. Why do people think the Shadow Trap is “cowering” in Tahu’s video? (I thought people were joking when they suggested that before…)
    Surely it’s just hiding, ready to ambush Tahu, as you would expect from a sentient trap, but Tahu spots it first. (It wouldn’t be much of a trap if it sat around in plain sight. :P)

  2. What’s with the “G1 Toa were siblings” thing? That was as much a metaphor as Mata Nui being Teridax’s “brother”. The Toa had platonic friendships because that’s all there was for MU inhabitants, not because they were related (no one in the MU was).
    So with G2, there isn’t any reason to rule out the Toa developing romantic relationships (even if they are the G1 Toa, Greg has said that MU inhabitants can “learn” romance from Agori, given time).

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If you look closely you can see that its quivering in fear. This is why people believe it is cowering. Its also clearly being spotted as Tahu notices it, points his sword at it and then proceeds to blast apart the surrounding rocks in an attempt to kill it - and yet rather than attack it continues to try and hide, so ‘cowering’ would be a good term. Probably smarter to ‘cower’ when outmatched as the traps are only really effective slightly against the creatures,

This was probably its intention as they are likely very weak and only good for trapping unsuspecting prey. However, in this case its been found and Tahu is blasting apart its hiding spot and the animation of it makes it appear scared.

The Toa often refer to themselves as brothers and sister in G1. Though their was occasional hints at relationships between the characters such as Tahu and Gali (particularly in the movie) most of that can be attributed to brother/sister unconditional love - e.g. love that is not in a romantic sense.

Not sure if anyone is ruling it out per say, however their is currently no development that suggest the Toa having romantic feelings towards each other. Currently the only thing remotely related to that is when Onua is holding Tahu after catching him - however that’s more of a G1 reference and supposed to be part of a ‘team building’ thing that Lego are doing in different forms of media (I believe Nexo Knights has a character do a similar thing if I’m not mistaken)

G2 is inspired mostly via the early years of G1 and the current Toa are pretty much intended to be rehashed versions or the actual G1 Toa. As such they should probably follow a G1 style idea of being family in terms of their interactions. While granted they haven’t specified the Toa’s relationships with one another in G2, they haven’t given anything to lead us to believe that the G2 Toa have any romantic feelings towards any of the other.

Personally i wouldn’t want them to either, the Toa from G2 were introduced as effectively amnesiac children unaware of their identity, past, etc… I’d find it odd for example if a romance suddenly appears between Gali and Tahu when they are still unaware of who they really are themselves.

Pretty much this ^

Though i think in this form of story it’ll likely be Makuta controlling Umarak after he is transformed, showing that being a bad guy and trying to become powerful ends badly for them.

Pohatu’s worst fear is a scorpion according to his 2016 information - however i do like the idea that the bow can cause them to hallucinate him as a more terrifying being, kind of like Scarecrow’s fear gas.

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@Scarilian Eh, I’d prefer G2 actually have love elements. Not love triangles, mind you, but just general romantic love without any quarrels. You know, just a side thing that makes them feel more human and relatable, while at the same time raises the stakes and gives at least two Toa a personal reason for fighting evil and doing their best to keep each other safe.

Maybe I’m just a sucker for a nice simple love story without any complexities or issues on the side.

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I would actually be even happy if the concept of anykind of love to be canon in G2. Because thats the organic human aspect Bionicle needs, without it, they are just programmed robots.

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I agree, Bionicle needs more humanity. Remember how they explained that Vakama had its visions? Just a glitch. That was disappointing, really wishing that doesn’t happens again

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“Vakama? Another vision?”

It already is, though. The villagers are shown to reproduce in some way (it could be biological, or maybe some other method because they’re biomechanical) but that ability implies that love exists in G2. Even if reproduction was not romantically-based in Okotoan culture, Bingzak obviously shows concern and affection for his parents in the graphic novel (if that was actually him). It’s logical to assume that emotions on Okoto are no different from here on Earth, although whether or not the Toa have the same capacity is unknown. I certainly hope they do…

Also, I heard that there were hints of a Korgot-Vizuna thing in RotSS, but I haven’t read it yet, so I don’t know the details, but that’s another point in love’s favor :grinning:

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@Toa_Heatwave “Vizuna, you have to teach me how to use your elemental flame bow.”


I don’t think Umarak sounds young in the new trailer, he sounds normal to me.

He sounds like he is tired, bored, or thirsty (for blood)

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