he is Kyeeteet orange
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Oh what, you wanna go, too? IāLL ā ā ā ā ā ā ā TAKE YOU ALL
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No, Iām just messing with ya but ya keet is orange or yellowish orange at best
This is not how providing evidence works. I could easily use this own logic to say we have no evidence that there are no currently gold armored water Toa or gold armored Ice Toa because we havenāt see it.
So why exactly are people so adamant about having gold armor on Kualus/Gaaki? Like I understand why people donāt want that, and it makes a lot of sense to me, but I donāt get why people are for it. Is it because people have already built their MOCs or something?
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No, my Kualus is silver, and I donāt have a Gaaki. I just havenāt seen any solid reasoning besides opinion. If you just think itās personally confusing I get it, but presenting it as fact and like its mandatory is what I canāt get behind.
What are you on about? There is no rule that weāve ever seen which indicates that gold armor is mutually exclusive to being a Toa of Air, or that thereās another element which is signified by green and gold armor. We do know that Toa of Psionics are blue and gold, and therefore Toa of Water most likely cannot be blue and gold because that defeats the purpose of color-coding the elements, which the GBs apparently went out of their way to do when creating the Matoran.
We cannot be 100% certain that no Toa of Water has ever worn gold because you canāt prove a negative, but itās for that exact reason that you canāt prove that itās unreasonable for a Toa of Air to wear green when thereās no element signified by gold and green.
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So as you just proved, your logic is inherently inconsistent and flawed. Just provide me the evidence saying something canāt be a color. But there isnāt, so you can not.
We have several instances in Matoran where the color coding has failed already.
This would be a huge problem for me if I ever said that it canāt. My thesis was that itās illogical and would be confusing even in-universe, and it wouldnāt be consistent with the Hagah we have thus far.
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And Toa can canonically be any color.
This is entirely different from the Metru build debate, where we have a defined canon, but disagree on what it means. This is something that the canon doesnāt indicate at all, and in fact has examples of different colors for Toa.
Sorry, I meant we needed it. It should have been around, but wasnāt until after that debacle because the admins didnāt realize it would be a problem.
Doesnāt matter. What matters is that it was allowed.
So my question is then: why does there have to be another reason for not allowing it other than that the color scheme is already taken? As Iāve said so many countless times, not everything has to be so meticulously defined.
Furthermore, allowing element-specific color schemes into other elements defeats the purpose of even color coding elements. By your logic, this is a Toa of Fire.
As the rhetorician himself said.
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- Where is the evidence for this, exactly?
- We already have the existing logistical problems of it being confusing both to us and to characters in-universe. This is something the Makuta would have chosen.
And it was the first contest, and there was oversight, which you just said about letting Bendy through. As I said, weāre not debating the Helryx contest. Weāre debating rules for the Hagah contest.
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Well if that isnāt the flimsiest little strawman Iāve ever seen.
Youāve recognized Iruini as being unique so far amongst other Air Toa, yes? Therefor its arguably more consistent to have another unique color scheme.
Your point up here was based off of what could not be. You backed this with defense on color consistency, which weāve also proved is already inconsistent.
Itās not. Heās following your line of thinking to its natural conclusion. If color schemes donāt matter, that can be a Toa of Fire, but this creates problems in- and out-of-canon.
To our knowledge, yes. Which is the point of the Hagah armor.
Unique meaning what, in this case? Because weāre not debating giving Gaaki, idk, pink armor. Weāre talking about gold armorāwhich is potentially unique to Toa of Water, but not to Toa.
Because you said the Hagah were inconsistent. Youāre reading into my semantics too hard.
You havenāt proven itās inconsistent, you only said you did whilst (possibly unintentionally) burning down a strawman I never erected.
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Fine fine Iāll explain my reasoning.
Your argument is that because we havenāt seen a rule that Toa of water/light donāt have gold armor, we can include it. My argument is that based on that logic, we havenāt ever had a rule that says a Toa of Fire - which can have yellow armor - canāt have blue armor. In fact, Takua had blue armor and everyone though he was a Matoran of Fire, so technically my argument is even more consistent that yours.
And even disregarding that, the point that has been made several times still stands - why even color code elements at all if weāre gonna change them anyways?
Also this a recurring thing where you try to say your counterpoints in the most offensive way possible just because you disagree and itās getting annoying.
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Are people seriously arguing that gold should be banned?
Really? The same people who care so much about canon that they want to enforce a specific piece, now want to restrict canon because a Toa might kinda look like another Toa?
This is ridiculous. Kualus, Gaaki, Pouks, and Bomonga can be any metallic color. Including gold. End of story.
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you mean look identical right.
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While I get the ādonāt like it, donāt vote for itā mentality, its frequent use comes off more as a kneejerk reaction than anything constructive. The same applies when to how X is supposedly good, only to retreat to āitāll probably lose anyways.ā Inb4 argumentum ad populum and whataboutism.
On a somewhat related topic, thereās been little to no regulations that pertain to articulation, basic color blocking, and stability. Somewhat unsurprisingly, weāve been given two unstable mocs, one which canāt stand up properly. It would be nice if there were rules to prevent this but like iBunny said, I doubt things are going to change and theyāre probably going to allow lookalikes so whatever I guess
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Good that isnāt actually my logic, its what I juxtaposed as a counter to:
He introduced the logic that Iruini was not unique because we hadnāt seen otherwise. You guys are arguing with your own logic, not mine. Iām not saying any Toa can be different. Iām saying specifically the Hagah. Because they arenāt just any Toa. Theyāre the Hagah.
I provided evidence of inconsistencies with Iron and Stone. Amongst Matoran, weāve already seen overlaps in Stone and Earth. Av-Matoran overlap with everyone.
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