BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

I’d argue she should then still have retained what power she already absorbed, though.

As to her using it in battle - I personally imagine her always carrying it with her in a pouch or something so that she can use it as a trump card if absolutely necessary to safe her own life. Wouldn’t seem reasonable for Tuyet as a character to for example face a threat like the Kanohi Dragon that is more than capable of killing her without a personal life ensurance in the form of the Nui Stone.
And should it ever come to that, she’d need one free hand.

Also it doesn’t strike me as particularly likely that Tuyet would want to be separated from the Nui Stone for longer than necessary. Not in the main universe, and especially not in the AU where she has surrounded herself with a Toa army, every single one of them capable of also using the Nui Stone.

So, a curiosity thing here, how does this pertain to the contests?

There’s already more than enough vague-ness that we can all but assume TTV aren’t going to restrict or require either sword or Nui Stone.

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well, It is common for shock to occur when power is suddenly disconnected during charging.
Most machines have safeguards about it.
maybe nui stone doesn’y have safeguards

I don’t think it’s wrong to see her holding both stone and barbed broad sword
It’s the most appropriate scene for Tuyet
and big sword wouldn’t be a problem anyway.
tahu nuva and mahri jaller’s sword are huge enough.

We will have to consider whether 3D printing sword is allow

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I guess it pertains to how big Tuyet’s broadsword should be, since Gil’s point is that it shouldn’t be so big as to be a two-handed weapon. I disagree, and think that a two-handed weapon would make sense, seeing as it’s her only weapon (as far as we know).

Why wouldn’t it be? 3D weapons are allowed.

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That’s because her sword is “Broadsword”
Broadsword means a military one-handed sword in the 17th century.
So it’s fair to be a one-handed sword,

I don’t think it matters if it’s huge.

I hope that whatever it is, a sword of good design will come out.

Since when does Bionicle follow real life weapon rules?

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Since when does it matter? Are we arguing that one-handed or two-handed weapons should be in the rules for the contest? Because that’s absurd. Or are we arguing … for the sake or arguing?

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so i said, big sword wouldn’t be a problem

I think Greg says her weapon was a broadsword because it was a broad sword as opposed to a skinny one. He wanted to get the idea across that the weapon she had was both broad and a sword.

He’s done it

He’s cracked the code

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yeah, Let’s stop talking about weapon design.
This is a really useless argument.
I don’t think there’s much restriction in the Tuyet contest anyway.

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Are you complaining about it for the sake of complaining?

Not every discussion has to be about rules, you know. This is a discussion about appearance contests. People should be allowed to discuss what they think these appearances should be. And they have been, throughout the entire topic.

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Blunt. I think Winger’s abstained enough from the heat of the arguments to deserve better of a retort than that.

Your point is correct, however all the vicious arguing about appearances accomplishes nothing if the end goal isn’t a rule in one direction or the other, since discussion without that goal can take place elsewhere and more civilly. Otherwise it’s an argument about who’s the most right.

People like to know what other people want to see. There’s been discussions in this topic of masks for Orde and Zaria, what colors people want to see for the Hagah, what colors people want to see for Tuyet. None of these were or ever should be rules. Relevant or not, that’s what this topic has always been: people discussing how they think these characters should look.

Yes, I was blunt in my response. Because, as has happened throughout this topic, a discussion was had on what people think characters should look like (in this case, Tuyet’s sword, which will probably be next). It was not “vicious arguing”, as you put it; both Gilahu and I calmly stated our opinions, and I left without being upset at all.

Then, Winger comes in with “since when does it matter? Are we arguing for the sake of arguing”? We weren’t even arguing. We were having a discussion on our opinions on this character’s appearance, which is the point of the Canon Contests. Not only was he complaining about a discussion this topic has been filled with, Winger’s complaints about the discussion seem to be more hostile than the discussion itself, and that’s what I reacted bluntly to. Was I wrong to reply to (percieved) negativity with my own blunt reply? Maybe. That’s part of the reason I make this post: I want to make up for it by fully explaining my issue with Winger’s posts rationally.

Second reason: I do agree that perhaps the discussion could be split. In fact, I propose this, to the moderators/Eljay and Meso: Creating a separate topic for opinions on appearances, things that don’t have to be rules, so that Eljnak don’t have to sift through it. An official, general discussion about character appearances for the contests.

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And pretty much all of them, barring a couple exceptions, have turned into arguments on what works and what doesn’t. One about whether or not monochrome looks bad just ended, and much like with every other time he’s posted, Winger questioned the relevance of the entire debacle.

Can I really be blamed for calling wolf here? Consider how many times this exact scenario has preceded a knuckle-to-teeth smackdown, how many times the mods have specifically requested they stop.

It’s a legitimate question and hardly unfounded. Everyone here most likely participated in the completely meaningless arguments prior to this. And the point made right before he posted was a question phrased identically to his - a bit of a jump to assume he was speaking directly to you and Gilahu.

We are now arguing about arguing about arguing. At this point I think Winger was right. And before this goes back down that bone-melting rabbit hole of unfriendly debates this topic has taken numerous times before, I should go.

…Okay, one more thing:

That’s another topic for Eljnak to moderate, something they’ve pretty much done entirely on their own aside from threatening statements from Kini, and it’s very evident the one topic is too great of a hassle to throw another one into the mix.

You could always make a topic about general discussion for a character - maybe Tuyet since that’s the hot topic right now - and see how it goes ahead of TTV making an official one for all characters. For canon resources, Winger’s done the same thing.

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I did edit that because I realized I worded it poorly, so to be clear: I didn’t mean to say that you were wrong, just that this discussion (the one in question) was not a vicious argument. So yeah, sorry about that.

I would add a size restriction. Maybe the same as for the Hagah. No titan size Tuyet or Matoran size Tuyet.

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Pre-emptively acting like someone has the worst intentions from well-intended discussion points and meme-ing and criticizing/attempting to silence what is supposed to be a simple and light-hearted talking point to gain further insight on how to make a design the community would best agree upon isn’t anymore productive either.

If the Hagah’s spears aren’t actually spears, and Helryx’s mace isn’t actually a mace, Tuyet’s Broadsword might not be a Broadsword.

It could be one-handed, two-handed, or wrist-mounted, and it could still fit. So long as it is a blade of some broadth that has barbs.

That’s all I have to say.

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I don’t think so
many Helryx MOCs were close to the size of the Warriors or Titan.

If we don’t like something too big or too small, just we don’t have to vote for it

Yes, eventually, weapon shape and size will be determined by MOC creator.

There will be no problem because it is decided by a vote whether it will be canon or not.

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That is why it’s necessary a size restriction. She is a Toa not a titan. I doubt a giant Tuyet will win, but checking how past votes has ended I think at least one titan will end in the final if no size restriction is imposed. Why risk.

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