Bionicle MoC: Vendetta

then why add buttcheeks in the first place?

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a e s t h e t i c
Also because as this is my moc, I’m at liberty to do whatever I want with it :slight_smile:
And besides, all my mocs have agendas. I build mocs because I wanna explore new techniques, like I did with this one. I build mocs to be characters in my storyline. Hell, if I didn’t have a reason to build then it’d just be aimlessly throwing parts together, and that isn’t too interesting to me. There has to be an end goal in mind to make the journey worth it. Also, ironically, the facebook group I posted this moc to seems to love her in unity

Maybe, but others are also at liberty to criticize your decisions. It goes both ways.

And people are criticizing my moc right now, I’m not against that. And since we’re all talking about “constructive criticism,” I’d like to hear about what I should do with this moc, instead of just having people tell me what I shouldn’t do. Yes, you guys don’t like the Rahkshi head or the Nuva boobs, but not much input has been offered beyond that

I understand. I’m just trying to play a bit of devil’s advocate.

Then nobody should post anything ever.
That’s a stupid argument, the point of posting a creative work is to show it off and hear feedback, you’re effectively saying criticism is wrong because it’s subjective.

Ah, so you’re not concerned with what’s being said, but how it’s being said, sorry, not playing this game, I’ll critique something as harshly as I feel is appropriate.

What, backwards? How would they impede forward movement?

And as you earlier made clear, you wanted to annoy people. Not a great reason to make a moc.

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Yes, getting feedback is great. Perfect. Swell.

Getting angry responses that try get the creator to change what they like about their creation is not.

Okay, if you won’t respond properly then I’ll just assume i’m right.

Sometimes, tone is more important. That’s all I’ll say.

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There’s a difference between “i want to try this technique,” and “I want to send a message with this!”

if you’re wanting to open up a discussion about the usage of nuvaboobs, then do so. Don’t go about it, admitting to wanting to start a flamewar.

then again, you did get your wish. you got us angry.

but not for the reasons you wanted.[quote=“Payinku, post:47, topic:36153”]
And as you earlier made clear, you wanted to annoy people. Not a great reason to make a moc.
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If you should take anything from this thread, this is it.

Trying to annoy people is not a good idea, whether it be through actions, or other means.

When you move the leg forwards, if the buttcheek wasn’t posable then there would be a space between the buttcheek and the rest of the body it’d look awkward, so if it was posable you can just move it to hug the body so there’d be no gap. I had really hoped that the first and third pictures highlighted the importance of the posability but I guess not.

What exactly is a proper response pray tell?

I refuse to sugar coat my criticisms because someone might not like what I have to say.
You’re more concerned about not hurting an ego than letting them improve, people need honest criticism.

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“angry responses”

Well, didn’t the creator say that angering people was the point of the MOC?

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The moc is cool, but why do so many people make female characters just with rockshi heads? Just wondering. Just make a better, more advanced rockshi

*rahkshi
It’s really just a style, I think. Might have something to do with the association with Roodaka.
It’s an okay MoC, Maybe a bit frail and… Nuva-boob-y.

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The lot of you that are repeatedly citing the part where I said I created this moc to incite flaming are completely neglecting the second part of that paragraph under the false pretense that this moc is a joke moc. Indeed, flaming was expected, which is why I stated the moc was “made for it” but it was also meant to separate those who flame and hate, from those who can see past the reasons to hate, and find a reason to love. It inspired a discussion on what it means to blatantly disagree with how a moc is built, as opposed to how to offer constructive criticism on how a moc could be built better. It really has shown us that mocing can inspire deep discussions!

Here’s what you said:[quote=“Payinku, post:47, topic:36153”]
sorry, not playing this game, I’ll critique something as harshly as I feel is appropriate.
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That’s just automatically assuming that you’re right because you don’t feel like saying anything else

Give a man a fish, he can get food for a night. Teach a man to fish, he can get food for life.

It’s not about egos, it’s that there should be more than the “correct” option in a creative process. Telling someone exactly what they should do (or what a popular consensus thinks) won’t help them improve at all.

…you got me

I like that it has a lot of system pieces incorporated into it, but it does fall into genericness. And yes, as others have stated the fact that this was made just to get people to start yelling about oversexualizing MOCs makes me not take it very seriously.

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Too me, the moc looks like a really thin, non durable, cheap female stick figure action figure.

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For the folks who keep reporting it, it’s not going anywhere. This isn’t a joke MOC, and you are completely proving his point. Even if the MOC wasn’t well done, the fact that so many people are falling into this trap over it is.

It isn’t going anywhere, people need to get over it. It’s a female MOC, that is the end of it.

Also, I’d recommend people refresh themselves on our Joke Topic policy. You may notice that this doesn’t fall under that category.

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I’m gonna do something different here and actually review the MOC.

Pros:

  • This MOC has some pretty consistent texturing. The smoothness from the Lego System and CCBS really works well here. The greebled parts are only in the more complex builds (like the hands) and even then are distributed across the MOC to make it look consistent.
  • MOC is consistent with colors.
  • Interesting builds used in the legs.
  • I like the choice of pieces for the hair although the construction could use some work.

Cons:

  • The MOC falls apart when it comes down to some of the textures as well. The stickers on the arms shouldn’t be there. The calves aren’t very smooth due to the use of the Inika armor piece.
  • The feet do NOT look good. They look so cobbled up.
  • The weapon leaves a lot to be desired.
  • Not a fan of the construction of the back side. The back needs more covering and the rear end looks blocky and frankly out of place.
  • The legs are too wide compared to the thinness of the rest of the MOC.

A mediocre MOC in my opinion but with more consistency within the build it could be good.

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You’re trying to police criticism, a critique doesn’t have to be in any way positive to be constructive, some mocs have no redeeming qualities,
and who are you to tell people what they can and can’t like?

1 that didn’t answer my question.
2 I know I’m right from experience on both sides, harsh criticism has helped me improve and I’ve had people say my harsh criticism helped them improve, if someone can’t handle criticism they shouldn’t be an artist.

That is in no way applicable to what I said, unless you’re insinuating that the honesty of the criticism is inversely proportional to how much someone learns from it, which I assure you is wrong.

What else are you trying to protect by censoring criticism?

Who said there’s a correct opinion? I’m arguing that harsh criticism can be necessary for someone to improve, sometimes you just have to tell someone the moc is a lost cause and to start over, or telling someone a better way to do something.
Telling a greenhorn what is overdone or considered bad by the community most certainly does help them improve, it let’s them learn from the mistakes of others rather than make them themselves.

Both of you are saying that if someone has nothing good to say about a moc, or are simply harsh in their critique, than they should self-censor because they’re too negative.
I’m not playing that game, people should be able to give whatever criticism they have as long as it’s fair, even if it’s harsh, even if it’s entirely negative.