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not 100% confirmed but I’m quite confident that it’ll be it’s own show. No matter what gripes I have, Din’s story is in no way finished.

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no I’m not gonna do it if you ask me sheesh

anyway uh I really hope they don’t make another spinoff of the mandalorian please disney we do not need fifteen shows please have mercy PLEASE

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boy do I have news for you

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The house of mouse has no mercy, it is a war criminal

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Well, this topic has become…something.

Guess I’ll throw my hat into the ring. Why not? Let’s make this even more interesting.

So, I have mixed feelings about this episode. To put it in a certain metaphorical way, I enjoyed all of the ingredients in the dish, but not the way the dish was prepared.

I do think that Luke’s appearance was foreshadowed adequately. It makes a good deal of sense for him to show up, as his settling into the role of Jedi Master during this timeframe means it’s highly unlikely he would ignore Grogu’s call.

However, in terms of the narrative of the episode itself, I have to agree that his arrival was a bit deus ex. Purely considering the arc of the episode, it’s clear that the entire plot of the finale was written solely to facilitate Luke’s appearance. That wouldn’t be an issue for me if it was done with more nuance, but I felt that his sudden, dramatic appearance was very ham-fisted, and combining that with the fact that none of the other characters were ever placed in real danger during this episode, it all felt rather bland and convenient.

It struck me as odd how rushed the plot of this episode felt, particularly with Luke’s cameo. There’s very little interaction between him and the other characters–no introductions, no exposition, no acknowledgement of whether anyone on the bridge knows who he is…and then, he simply takes Grogu and leaves, no questions asked. Din is not–or shouldn’t be–a trusting person by nature. He accepted Bo-Katan’s directions to Ahsoka because she was a fellow Mandalorian, and yet he simply believes Luke when he shows up and says, ā€œYes, I’m a Jediā€? There’s nothing more that could’ve been done there? No explanations or conversations? Maybe a shout-out from Cara Dune to validate his appearance and actually introduce him to the characters?

I know the objections that might be raised–the CGI doesn’t lend itself to long scenes with Luke. But that’s no excuse, IMO, for bland, forced, barebones writing where a character simply shows up, says the simplest thing they need to say, and then departs. The episode would have greatly benefited from introducing Luke earlier and giving him a more organic and complete interaction with the heroes. Perhaps having the Dark Troopers separate Din from the bridge, and then having Luke show up for the two of them to team up against the enemy, would’ve allowed for that.

I simply feel as though the least-nuanced way of introducing Luke was chosen for this episode. Compare the finale to Ahsoka’s episode, which took the time to introduce her as a character, establish her place in the story, and then organically weave Din and Grogu into a path that intersected with hers. This episode doesn’t do that–Luke just appears spontaneously, as if from thin air, and not a minute after he shows up, he’s gone.

Additionally, I do think that removing Grogu from Din’s story affects the dynamic of the show. Having Grogu go off to train under Luke is certainly an acceptable ending to his arc, but the abruptness of his departure is very jarring to me. I have no doubt that if Season 3 focuses on the quest to reclaim Mandalore, or on anything else, it will be done well, but this is certainly a radical departure from the central theme of this show, that being the parent-child dynamic between Din and Grogu.

I don’t want this to be seen as my thoroughly disliking the finale. Again, while I think it needed more nuance and polishing, I’m not at all opposed to anything that actually happened in it. I’m completely on board with Luke’s appearance, and with Grogu going off to train with him, but I feel as though there needed to be more work done on the structure of the episode, and on ensuring that there is a clear direction for the series going forward, as even though there are many possibilities, none were fully set up and put on track to take the show into Season 3.

Anyway, that’s my spiel…

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BRUH

ya mind making your post a spoiler? that’s kinda super spoiler-y and everyone else censored theirs

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couldn’t agree more.

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Alright. I was assuming they’d continue Din’s story in another show. But this works, too.

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IDK why you aren’t seeing spoiler tags, but my browser clearly has my entire post in spoilers, so I don’t know if it’s a glitch or not…

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ttv message boards system you monster

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It wants us all to be spoiled!!!

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I respectfully disagree. As much as they were fun to watch in the Force Awakens, they weren’t properly developed throughout the rest of the trilogy, making them a very wasted potential. Finn is probably the worst offender in that regard.
As much as the prequel characters had their own set of problems, they were also fun to watch (Obi-Wan in particular) and they went through significant character arks throughout the trilogy, unlike the Sequel characters which kind of stayed the same throughout al three movies.

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I mean, I guess that’s where my distaste for Rise of Skywalker comes into play - not only is it a dumb movie in its own rights, it completely flops as a conclusion to the trilogy. So many interesting things set up in the previous movies get dropped, crushing any possibility of meaningful character arcs, especially for Rey and Finn.

And I will agree, there are definitely some character highlights in the Prequels - Qui-gon Jinn is such an interesting Jedi, and Anakin and Obi-wan’s banter later in the trilogy is always a good time.

In the end, though, the things that make me like a movie aren’t nuanced character arcs or thematic details - they can be the things that make me love a movie, but only if the movie makes me like it first. For me, the fun tone of the Sequels do a lot to make me like them, even if they miss a lot of shots, whereas the Prequels don’t quite add up to the sum of their parts for me.

Granted this is starting to veer into its own discussion, so I’ll leave it there. If you want a more detailed explanation I could do it in another topic.

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That was actually the girl that took an entire town hostage forced to play through a sitcom. I think the villain part changed when instead of strange trying to explain and free the town they made Agatha the clear villain of the series. Strange was supposed to set up the insane and broken Wanda as the villain or at least be involved in the multiverse of madness movie.

The main reason the sequels are worse than the prequels is the actual story: the prequels are about the fall of the Jedi, and the microcosm of that in Anakin. The Sequels … have no story to speak of. TFA is an ANH reskin, TLJ was … honestly not as bad as people say, because it set up Kylo Ren as a comparatively compelling villain (at least compared to Snoke), and then TROS just threw everything out the window and made a disjointed continuation of TFA.

The sequels have better effects and acting, but that’s about the only thing they got going for them as a trilogy, as far as I’m concerned.

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I was gonna press Like until that point.

Now I need to find the Dislike button.

To stay on-topic, I personally think Parks and Recreation is an overrated show.

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fair enough

I only say that about TLJ because TFA had no original content, and TROS was marginally worse than TLJ.

They are all terrible beyond measure. I understand how one can appeal more than the other but they ARE as bad as people say and more.

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The reason I prefer the sequels to the prequels is that the sequels capture the feel of the original trilogy quite well: it’s the same fun adventure (although very stupid and nonsensical no matter how you look). The prequels, on the other hand, don’t feel like Star Wars too much with all their intergalactic politics, romantics and excessive (and sometimes bad) CGI all over the place. Plus, the acting is kind of weak, although there were some great actors, it seemed like they weren’t trying that hard.

2023 edit: this is an outdated take. Prequels are much better.

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Alright, I have a few things to say about this. First off, what ā€œfeels like Star Warsā€ is completely subjective. And if by that you mean ā€œthe most similar to the original trilogyā€ that can be both a good or a bad thing. I would argue that while the sequels try to recapture the feel of the OT, they do so in a way that can end up feeling like just a nostalgic cash-grab, especially when you end the trilogy in the exact same place where you started (and even retcon Anakin’s sacrifice in the process).
The prequels, on the other hand, feel like they have a justifiable reason to exist. George Lucas was well aware of the risks he was taking by taking his franchise in a new direction, but he did it anyway.

This might be a controversial opinion, but I do respect the introduction of intergalactic politics. It makes the world building feel more genuine and realistic. And I get the feeling creating a world driven by space politics was always George’s intention (look no further than that scene with Darth Vader and the generals in a New Hope), and he just took the opportunity and expanded his world in the way he originally wanted when it came to prequels.
Besides, politics play a much bigger role in the Clone Wars TV Show with entire story arks dedicated to it, and I don’t see anyone complaining about that.

Well, the thing is, George waited 17 years on purpose before making a new Star Wars movie because he specifically wanted the technology to improve so he could better achieve his vision. So when CGI came to the scene in the late 90’s, no wonder he wanted to take as much advantage of it as possible. I agree they probably should have balanced it with more practical effects, but one can’t just look at the dated CGI and say ā€œthis is badā€ when it was actually pretty revolutionary for the time. Fun fact, Jar Jar Binks was the first ever fully digital character interacting with real actors, and also the first ever movie character to be made using Motion-Capture, which is so common now days.
So, you might have to thank the prequels for all the technological advancements they made, just like you can thank the OT for its own technological advancements. George Lucas has always been an innovator, and this is probably one of the key things that was missing from the sequel trilogy.

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