The First: MOC Contest Results (BIONICLE Canon Contest #1)

[Eljay]

If this is gonna be the back and forth format, I’m gonna get tired of it very quickly.

@Godzilla

The staff member disqualified it as a joke entry, and that was reversed out of good faith. That’s more or less what they say.

Our moderators did not have disqualifying allowance. Only cast members. It was deleted, but it was not formally disqualified.

@Godzilla

The main point when they mentioned the “entry that was third” seems more to be that Double’s entry was moved forward twice by audit, not from the pure votes themselves. Now, whether that is simply coincidence, or that the audited votes were legitimate and Double’s entry was pushed forward to first compete with Bendryx and then overtake it, that is up to one’s own conclusions, as obviously throughout the thread this whole thing has been discussed.

What you are suggesting is that we moved it forward by removing legitimate votes. We did not tamper with votes. Any votes we removed were determined to be fraudulent.

@Godzilla

Their statement was true. The rules for being allowed to vote were indeed changed. I do not see the issue of what they said, and although on its own such a change can be seen as one of necessity, given the fact that later on over 70 votes were removed (orders of magnitude more than the previous contest section) despite the changes being put in place specifically to prevent fraudulent accounts from being mass produced, one could instead see it as a change made to slow down new voters from tipping the polls, and one that did not work.

You’re conflating two issues here, but I suppose that comes from a lack on insight on what makes a fraudulent account. One issue was a mass of people being offered compensation if they voted that were joining in large numbers just to boost one entry. A normal account, made by a person to vote, that did not utilize fraudulent means to create said account or any others, was not discounted during the audit.

The point behind what we did was to respond to the panic that ensued once the offer on Twitter was discovered. It did not disbar legitimate persons from voting.

@Godzilla

5.It seems their mention of Double relates to the point listed earlier about how Double’s entry moved up twice only after the auditing of votes. That is admittedly a bit strange, when one considers that both you and (I believe) Meso voted for Double’s entry as well. @Sparky might be trying to say that Double was deliberately pushed forward as the build chosen to beat out Bendryx, denying the legitimate winner of Contest Nueve their place and later on winning the contest through vote manipulation, as well as being put in the finals to swiftly gain a lead and overtake Bendryx.

I’m getting quickly exhausted with this accusation that we moved Double’s MOC up because it was our preference, so I’m gonna cut to the chase:

My personal favorite entry, and the one I wanted to win over all, was ToaOfPlastic’s. After that, the one I wanted to win was Du7734’s. I had no other favorites after those two. Does that satisfy you?

@Godzilla

While it is true that no one explicitly said their own entry preferences (as far as I am aware), it is also true that at least you yourself voted for Double’s entry twice. One could argue that is a “red flag”.

Would you rather we not vote? Would you prefer I not have entries I enjoyed and got to vote on personally, as a member of the community as well? You can believe it’s a red flag, and I understand your perspective… but it’s a nothing-burger.

@Godzilla

Regardless, I still believe Sparky’s post was, for the most part, well informed

You are welcome to believe that. And I’m saying it wasn’t.