I did not engage with the contest during the first round, partly because I was too busy and partly because I’m not a fan of canonization contests. I started voting round two.
I voted for 3 in Nueve and would have been satisfied if it had won. But I think my preferred entry was #2 from Diez by @Infrared.
An entry that legitimately lost to Bendy in the second round no I’m not still salty You’d think if Eljay was rigging the votes against Bendyryx, he’d do it back then, when a favorite was actually about to lose in the polls…
In the end, I think it comes down to “do you trust TTV?” If you do, there’s nothing to suggest that the vote was tampered with, and in fact more plausible evidence that there would be many fraudulent votes. If you don’t trust TTV, then it might be worth considering why and whether it’s on valid grounds, as well as how that might be influencing how you see the controversy.
If you wish to stop, we may stop. I do not intend to tire you out, as it were, and to be fair you (as well as many of the other moderators) should get your rest. I shall try my best to be brief.
If we’re being completely honest, I’d rather a list of the audited voters be released as it would release no information as to how you audited the votes themselves. But you yourself made it clear you would not release such a list, which I accept as a conclusion. I’m just saying that to be honest.
I’m not trying to argue that these beliefs are necessarily what I feel, or even true. But I simply am arguing that, to me, they seem well informed.
I apologize if this is aggravating to you. If you wish, I shall drop the subject entirely in this thread.
@TakumaNuva That one does look really good. It’s a great entry, I recall voting for it (I think). Personally I preferred 3 more, as the shield seemed a bit too bare, but really it was very well made.
@Gresh113 I suppose the hypothetical argument is less that they specifically wanted Double’s to win the entire time, and moreso that Doubles was chosen at the semifinals because it was deemed the better looking entry that also had the best chance of winning (and looking like it won fairly), so it was planned as the winner semifinals-forward.
But, and let me stress this once more, this is hypothetical. I am not saying I hold these beliefs, nor am I trying to “throw shade” at the TTV staff. They all seem respectable and civil, and even though I may disagree with some things I personally am not squarely in a camp of not believing them.
You routinely trash talked #6 Mctoran
Ok, we really don’t need to make this about individuals and what they may or may not have done…
Fair enough. Apologies if I came off as overly aggressive - I’m sure you can understand that this whole ordeal has been just that.
Thank you for your input and for providing these perspectives in a respectful manner. It is sincerely appreciated.
Even if I have, I still think the contest should be fair. I might not like certain entries but I’m not petty enough to try to rig a contest to make another entry win.
The only thing I’ve advocated for was fairness in the rules, not tipping the scales in favor of or against certain entries.
There is no need for apologies. I may not be a moderator of forums but I have had manager positions once or twice and I can (sort of) get how frustrating and difficult it is to work diligently on them.
Really, I recommend rest. For all of those involved, to be fair.
@Gresh113 I do agree, please try to keep things civil guys. Just be sure not to insult others.
I’m sorry, but I’ve seen this individual routinely voice a very demeaning and disrespectful opinion towards the MOC to the point where posts have been removed. His statement was categorically false.
Be that as it may, throwing shade at them as a person, by accusing them of lying, doesn’t seem necessary in this situation. In other situations, perhaps it is important to point out when someone’s lying. But not here, not for something as simple as this…
I dont hate Hoseryx for her design, even though I dont like her appearance. But that in itself wouldn’t be enough to make me want to get it disqualified or have the contest rigged against it. What miffs me the most about Hoseryx is all the questionable things that have been done to push it ahead in the contest.
Although that may sound hypocritical since there were fraudulent votes for every entry besides 1, Hoseryx had the most so, as claimed by the data.
Suggestions for future contests:
1. Put more emphasis on consistency with G1 sets and aesthetics, and the use of primarily G1 and technic parts.
2. Require that all entries for kanohi wearing characters such as Toa use a mata/metru head which can wear kanohi.
3. Include a more comprehensive character info section, with no information omitted or subjective interpretations/opinions added.
Helryx was never described as being “thin”, yet this was in the guidelines for her contest while information like her build “probably looking similar to a Toa Mata” was left out.
4. Ensure people have read all the canon quotes/info before they gain access to entry/voting to check people know enough about the character, and hopefully prevent people from voting for MOCs simply because they’re technically impressive or look cool.
This and the previous suggestion should reduce the number of entries to sift through early on and the number of polls necessary to do so, as many Helryx entries didn’t quite match canon descriptions of the character.
While some characters don’t have enough info and lore requirements to warrant this, I feel Helryx in particular would’ve benefited from it.
5. Maybe release the list of removed votes to put peoples’ minds at ease? I have no doubt there were plenty of dupe accounts, but without knowing which names got struck off people can never be sure there weren’t a few real people who got caught in the process. (just the usernames, keeping the process of catching them secret to prevent them from circumventing it is fine)
6. I’m not sure how this could be enforced, but I think structural integrity and part availability are important and should be considered.
7. Requiring a TTV Boards account with trust level 1, while maybe effective at avoiding dupe accounts, is not ideal for those who aren’t already boards members and could also look a little weird optics-wise.
There’s probably a better way this could be handled. Check email address age during account creation maybe? Maybe it could also be tied into suggestion 4 somehow?
8. Maybe add a second image of each MOC to the polls showing another angle, at least in the later rounds when there are fewer entries and fewer images for one’s browser to load. Side-by-side to save space, if the boards’ format supports this.
And lastly, what happens to those face tubes on the winning entry when the mask gets changed?
If the winning mask has a place for the tubes, they will remain. If not, the ends will probably get connected elsewhere
I dont see how you are the proof they deleted non-valid votes.
You are the proof, they just send mails to suspicious accounts and if they didnt answer in time, they deleted the votes.
Good thing the voting count finished “faster than expected” 
No need to wait for responses, if the “joke entry” lost 
I have the feeling some strange decisions were made, while removing votes.
Potential “fake accounts” needed a fair time to respond and you did not give them this time
yes im mad.
Im mad this board made it hard to vote in the first place and now a small group has sculpted the result with unclear methods
As I said before I’m not going to discuss any more with you because you are just mad and I don’t want to make this personal or a fight. .
The lack of clarity is the concerning part. If there were clarity I don’t think that anyone would honestly be upset. I certainly wouldn’t be.
Ironically, something that Bendyryx is alright on. I personally like CCBS and think it fits well with G1 parts, so I’d have to respectfully disagree. As has been said, voters can choose not to vote if they don’t think it fits (though I would understand questioning the validity of that idea at this point).
Would pretty much agree with your second and third points.
“B-b-but… elitism!” /s
In seriousness, this doesn’t seem super practical to implement and would likely come with A LOT of backlash (though most choices will…). Though I personally agree with the idea, I don’t think it should be implemented.
I feel this has been addressed ad nauseum… it’s not happening…
I don’t know how practical this would be, but I think posting parts lists with each model entry would be a neat idea. Though again, not super practical maybe, it does mean more work for the MOCist to be able to post their creation.
I do like this idea, though TBF the original posts were always linked, so one could just visit those to see more images 
I assume the new mask design will just need to incorporate the tubes?
If you’re talking about the 30 min thing, how is that any real deterrent? As I’ve said elsewhere, surely there’s enough on this site to entertain a Bionicle fan for 30 minutes.
There’s no evidence of this. Unless you’re referring to the fraudulent votes, in which case good thing they were removed 
I actually feel that TTV has been remarkably transparent about everything. Yes, they are not listing the fraudulent votes, but they have given reasons for not doing so.
I personally think the points 3,4,6 and 8 are a good idea.
Points 1 and 2 seem way too purist-like to me.
My feeling is that Bendryx broke the rules (the having an armour rule more specifically and also the no joke rule, for me it’s clearly a joke, but I could be wrong).
It also made that another cool moc couldn’t make it to the final vote.
But that’s just my thoughts (and I think of many other people too). I don’t want to make this personal. Just wanted to say my opinion.
Despite the fact that the creator said that Hoseryx was not meant as a joke entry, I feel like it’s disrespectful to say that it’s clearly a joke to you.