Toa Hagah Canon Contest Format Feedback

First off, apologies if you felt like we strawmanned, disrespected, or misinterpreted your points. Sans outright reading every single post in this topic verbatim, accurately representing every possible POV with pinpoint accuracy would be impossible within our timeframe. I opted instead to highlight not only individual posts, but posts which were the source of discussion on a larger scale. Your Vakama, for instance, like you say, was not directly relevant or created as a response to these Hagah contests, much like WholesomeGadunka’s MoC also was not. However, these MoCs became the source of larger discussions and so they were discussion worthy because it addressed swathes of people in one go.

I happened to really like your suggestion even if I don’t personally relate to the need for it, as I think it’s a fair compromise between the points and I appreciated that you were being constructive in the topic. As such, I don’t really appreciate the vitriol being spewed or talking down to me as if I’m a child who needs to go sit in the corner. Eljay and I both can readily admit that we are not MoCists, so we’re not approaching this from a MoCist perspective.

As such, to US, this seems pointless (important distinction there), because what you can achieve in 60 pieces can generally be achieved in 5 with very minor borderline indiscernible differences. That does not mean, however, that your line of thinking is pointless, because at the end of the day it matters to you and how you build and how you express yourself, and you have just as much of a voice as anybody in these whole proceedings. I think we made that pretty clear, and I still believe that.

To address your post specifically, the images were not specifically used because the discussion was brief and the only thing I personally felt was relevant to the bigger picture at hand was the dimensions. which I was able to satisfactorily explain without posting 6 different images. With respect, if we had discussed this image for instance in depth:

https://i.imgur.com/v2cx3Kg.jpg

You probably wouldn’t have been happy with our tone because we probably would have laughed at it. A lot. Not for the purpose of belittling you, but because from our unique perspective as non MoCists whose primary concern is canon… the difference here is, again, borderline nonexistent. I get what you’re trying to convey, truly, and from a MoCists perspective you’re 100% correct. I think you adequately made your case for why the idea is solid, I presented it as such, and we’re fairly considering it based on all the points you made. But I take heavy issue with the assertion that we somehow “strawmanned” your argumentation, because nothing in your essay makes me, as a non MoCist, understand it any more. It still seems like way more work than it’s worth (both in terms of creation on the part of the builder, enforcement on the part of the moderators, and potential for bending the rules on behalf of the community) for results that are barely different from using a standard Metru torso.

Again, to directly respond to your essay:

virtually no creativity is possible.

And I’m the tooth fairy.

Again, I’m sorry if you feel offended. We seriously didn’t mean to, and I appreciate all the work you’ve put into discussing this.

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