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And it’s also been established that their metallic armour marked them as elite. What does any of this have to do with Kualus and Gaaki having gold armour?

Are you suggesting that Hahli Mahri doesn’t have green?

The rules don’t care if you think the lore has too many inconsistencies (which it totally does), because your opinion has no bearing on canon.

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It is logical to assume that their armour is silver, like Norik’s.

Of course, she doesnt.

It is canon that blue+gold and white+gold are of Psionics and Light.

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I myself thought a little bit about the Psionics/Light coloring question. I solved the issue for my own mind like this: I consider the Hagah as having additional armor.

The torso piece in particular comes to mind as it is not present in other Toa Metru builds. If you were to design a white and gold Lhikan for example, yes, that would be a Toa Metru of Light. However, if you give this toa an additional torso armor piece, as well as Hagah shield and spear, then it is a Toa Hagah of Ice.

See, the Hagah are a very specific team of elite toa. The way I see things (I might be wrong though) is that the Hagah are the only toa team to have that much armor. Only the Nuva have a similar amount of armor but they are also one of a kind in the Matoran Universe, and they don’t have the Hagah shield anyway. There is no Toa Hagah of Psionics or Light, this is a fact. The special elite metallic additional armor and weaponry are specific to the Hagah. Therefore, it is not possible to see a Whilte/Gold or Blue/Gold Metru build moc and wonder whether it is a Toa Hagah of Ice or a Toa of Light/Psionics. There is no overlap on their design. The presence of the elite additional armor and Hagah weaponry will make it obvious if it’s a Hagah and, therefore, Ice/Water, or if it’s a toa of Light/Psionics.

My point is that there is nothing wrong with someone designing a Gold Gaaki or Kualus. They wouldn’t break the canon IMO since their “basic” armor color would be White/Blue, only the “additional” Hagah armor would be metallic and, as such, they should not be disallowed.

I probably will only vote for silver entries, but I see no real reason to forbid Blue + elite Hagah Gold armor and White + elite Hagah Gold armor as that is different from Blue/Gold and White/Gold basic armor IMO.

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Small nitpick, but one of the other Makuta’s Hagah might have been a Toa of Psionics.

what about purple ones, just hypothetically

Yes. You aren’t wrong.

But what does that have to do with these rules? As far as I know, there is no canon rule or relation between the Toa Hagah and Toa of Light or Psionics.

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And it is canon that Onepu is purple and black despite not being a Ba-Matoran. This doesn’t contradict anything.

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Armor is colour coded. Canonically. And w+g and b+g are already taken, other elements can’t use them.

I found a contradiction

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Irrelevant. Don’t ignore my argument.

As we’ve pointed out to you MULTIPLE times by now, and as you keep blatently ignoring, it is well-established in canon that these do not restrict other elements in any way. Nor do the Hagah’s metallic color follow elemental coloring “rules.”

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I just checked BS01 and you’re actually right. I never paid attention to the fact that there were multiple Hagah teams. That indeed complicates the matter further, to the extent of ruining my while point, I fear… ^^’

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I don’t feel that it ruins the point at all, actually…

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And, canonically, the Toa Hagah ignore these rules. Just look at Norik’s mask; not only does it not look like a Pehkui, but it actively impersonates another mask.

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Well, it doesn’t for this particular Hagah team, the one of Teridax, as we know there weren’t a Toa of Light or Psionics in there, but I feel my poins is weakened still because there would be no way to differentiate a Toa Hagah of Ice/Water from a Toa Hagah of Light/Psionics. Not saying they should be banned for that reason though, I just think it is sad not to be able to differentiate them.

EDIT: Well, in truth, only the Psionics can be mixed up, as there is only one Toa of Light in the MU and he is not a Hagah. Unless someone comes up with an alternate reality Toa of Light in a Hagah team but I’m pretty sure that is a non issue as I don’t see any Makuta granting elite armor to a Toa of Light instead of killing them outright, considering the extent the Brotherhood went to try to prevent Takanuva from existing in the main timeline.

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Relax, I’m trying to prove a point. You can count how many times I had to repeat myself.

They are contradictions that weren’t created according to lore.

Any Greg quote?

They are entirely, 100% canon. There is no contradiction in them, as it was never stated they could not overlap. The fact they do exist establishes that they can and do.

This is because the metallic armor is additional armor forged from precious metals, it is not natural armor.

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If you want this join bipcup instead

The same could be said about the overly-detailed builds that are still using a Metru-torso.
Dag’s custom torso isn’t that different from the Metru torso.

The only way I can see the over-detailed ones justified is through different “artstyles” in the models, the same way the movie Toa Metru and the set Toa Metru are depicting the same thing, and the same way Takanuva 03 and Stars are depicting the same thing. However, in this measure, Dag’s build absolutely is a valid Metru-build.

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What do Kanohi have to do with color coded armor?

I also included a part about Iruini’s gold.

He means that the Toa Hagah have been known to be exceptions to established rules. Have you seen my posts about the additional armor consideration ? Genuine question.