Straving away from the whole custom masks debate, while we’re still on the topic of Hagah, I think there’s something that could be considered. What about helding a contest in a way that requires each contestant to submit all 4 Toa Hagah? That way we can end up with the most consistent and cohesive look for the entire team.
I know they’re all Metru builds so there is already some cohesion, but having each Hagah be built/drawn by a different person can still lead to some… messy results. And I know building four MOCs is a lot of work, but seeing how Metru builds are relatively simple, and considering stud.io can be used, I don’t think it’d be that much of an issue.
On the whole mask debate, the standard shape for the hagah mask doesn’t matter for their canonizity. If we look at the two team members of the masks of the 2 hagah we have we can se that both mask entries on bs01 uses their set depictions as the image of that specific mask making the whole standard shape discussion pointless.
If anyone wants to use a 3d mask for the masks shape then go ahead if someone wants an already established shaped mask then that is fine too. It will still make the mask shape equally as canon as special shapes for the mask of diminishment and quick travel are. Because their canon depictions have only ever been depicted in other shapes than the standard one.
I don’t see why the same wouldn’t go for the rest of the hagahs mask, so tbh just go nuts with the choice of mask for that contest, the canonizity of the mask shape won’t change.
Sure we might not actually know what the masks really look like but we already don’t have the standard shape for the pehkui or kualsi.
Tl:dr this debate seems pointless and feels like a non issue
Quick fact-check: Iruini’s mask is confirmed to be the correct shape of the Kualsi.
But your main point is right: These contests will not determine the standard shape of the Hagah’s mask powers, and may, in fact, even introduce new standard Kanohi shapes with unknown powers.
Not what I argued, the shape really doesn’t matter at all, as mentioned earlier the pehkui has the kiril shaped mask as its image on bs01. Same will go for all the other hagahs mask they will depict the mask they are wearing but they don’t have to be the original shape of the mask still it will be a canon depiction of the mask they wear.
Again this debate is pointless any mask will do as the mask for the hagah just go nuts.
I think we’re saying the same thing, I just phrased it poorly: the contest will canonize the shape of the exact Kanohi that the Toa Hagah wear, but not the standard shape of their respective mask powers.
Hello. I just wanted to make sure that the runes on the mask on the winning moc for the Artakha contest didn’t mean anything. Do they refer to some alphabet that I don’t know of? Any hidden meaning, or are they just symbols and decoration?
Khingk’s mask? As I understand it they’re based on Okoto glyphs of G2, and they do have meanings, but it’s just creation-type words and his name. Words like Shape, Pattern, Power, Wisdom, Genesis and Craft.
Sadly we may never get Marendar’s appearance since people don’t want his contest to happen (which sounds pretty stupid imo. Seriously though your giving an unimportant character such as the GSB a contest but not Marendar) Hopefully enough people vote for the contest to happen when it comes.
Some people (including myself) aren’t looking forward to the Marendar contest because of the near infinite different ways it can go. We have absoluteley no idea what Marendar looks like, unlike the golden skinned being. I think it will be difficult to decide on a canon appearance for a character who we know almost nothing about.
I think its good because it gives mocists more creative freedom. Most of these contests have strict guidelines to follow when building. For Marendar all people need to do is make a robot toa hunter. That can go anyway. I personally took a “hunchback terminator” route and have already finished my entry. Now I do hope there is a “no modern firearms” rule so people don’t slap 12 miniguns on him and call it quits (first it wouldn’t fit in the G1 aesthetic secondly there are more creative things then miniguns people can use) Even if people don’t like it that’s no reason to just not do it because then its unfair to the people who are excited for it and want to participate in it.
I’m all for giving Moccists freedom, but the Marendar might give them too much. In all of the other contests, I didn’t just vote for the MOCs that looked the best. I voted for the MOCs that looked good, but also fit the canon description. However, Marendar doesn’t have a canon description! Marendar could be a big floating green sphere with cannons coming out of it! Marendar could be a microscopic purple worm!
Maybe I’m biased, because I have little interest in learning what Marendar looks like, but if TTV were to do a more vague/open ended contest, I’d rather see a Makuta Kojol contest.
Also, there is a rule forbidding modern realistic firearms from these canon contests, so you need not worry about that.
I agree with that. I’m not super excited for the Marendar contest, but if people want to do it, I have no problem with that.
That said, I’m not sure if this is the right topic for this discussion.
To be fair, I have also seen some less-than-enthusiastic responses to the Golden Skinned Being Contest.
I don’t have an issue with either one of them getting canonized, as I am always happy to see the original canon expanded upon. You could tell me we’re getting a Canon Contest for Random Background Matoran #3, and I’d be happy.
But I do find it odd that those two were given contests over top of other more established characters. The common go-to example seems to be Kojol, but we could also have a Naho contest. There is also potential for previous incarnations of characters to be canonized, such as Toa Dume, or the unmutated Barraki, or the base forms of the 2008 Makuta.
But, at the end of the day, as long as we’re getting new character appearances, I’m happy.
Johmak is definitely a good one. I could also see the Crystal Serpents getting a contest.
But Kabrua? Isn’t he just a normal Vorox? Is there even anything there to get a contest out of? Though I suppose we could get some sweet art. Again, any new canon visuals, and I’m in.
If we really wanted some Spherus Magna stuff, maybe the Sisters of the Skrall?
A few more obvious choices are Tren Krom, Annona, and the Great Beings, though I believe Greg said he wanted those characters to remain in obscurity; Tren Krom and Annona because so much of their storyline presence depends on their appearance being totally unnatural, in a way that no artwork could capture; and the Great Beings because they were always meant to be enigmatic characters working from the shadows.
As one of the biggest opponents to Marendar’s contest, my viewpoint has changed somewhat since I started my Story Serial Continuations; I’d kind of like to have a visual description for Marendar, instead of having to create this character from scratch. I imagine many fanfiction writers might agree.
Honestly though I would love a contest for Gar, Kyrehx and Mavrah.
These characters are all explicitly light on armour. Not really suited for a moc contest. I could definitely see a Skrall sister art contest but TK and Annona are best left in the ‘unknowable Eldridge horror’ category.
